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November 13, 2007

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Excellent piece, Aventail's poor handling of the whole Leopard release should certainly give companies pause for thought when considering a VPN provider.

I work for a Fortune 50 and used to use Aventail... until Leopard... the company have really been put to shame by their competitors, and their own support are doing no favors - claiming that it will be at least "4 to 6 weeks" until a new version may become available. Thats a long time to be within VPN access - its a good job we recently began a trial with Cisco!

Sorry to hear that you have trouble gaining VPN access on your 10.5 Leopard. In fact our version 8.9 client runs on 10.5 without problems, only a small workaround is needed. Simply create a file named 'avc.noevent' under user's home directory and (re)launch Connect Tunnel or OnDemand Tunnel, this will disable OS event monitoring. We have several customers and partners that are using our VPN on leopard without problems.
Support for the various operating systems is always a race against time. If we test with pre-release code, we can almost get it right, but might hit the wall when the final release is out. e.g. pre-release XP SP2 was working perfectly but a last minute change MSFT introduced made us scratch our heads. I personally also use Leopard since the day it got released, I rely on everything working on that platform for my daily work.

Frank,

Intelligence is of no value unless communicated. My IT department was told by Aventail support there was no fix for this. I searched your website and found nothing relating to 10.5 or Leopard.

I strongly suggest you post detailed instructions for this workaround here and on the Aventail website. That information would have forestalled this posting.

Michael, did you seach on our official support website (requires login). there won't be any such info on the public facing site.

I searched on the official support site (I have a login) and I could not find anything. One of the problems I see with that site is that you are re-directed to the SonicWall support site. I have a post on the forum there about this problem from a couple of weeks ago (as do others), but no-one from Aventail/SonicWall has bothered to even read it as far as I can tell.

Frank,

Our IT (a small company called Kodak) is hopelessly trying to get some advice from Aventail, be it a patch, a workaround or a beta version of 8.9, but unfortunately all we get is the proposed workaround with no explanation on what file format that 'avc.noevent' thing needs to be in....
I work in an industry where a 24 hrs delay in response is considered bad service...
I submitted a case on SonicWall's site and got no response other than the automatic "thank you" message.
I then submitted a SALES request on the same site and guess what? No response either!!!!

With all due respect, our software (which is free BTW) is a 400MB app that requires ALLOT more programming power compared to a dinky little utility app. Complicated libraries, FW & USB drivers, Java and what not, yet it was released for Leopard exactly 5 days after Leopard came out.

Yair,

You are in good company. Our IT Department, which controls access to the Aventail/SonicWall website also has yet to hear back from their Customer Support team.

Like you, we are required to turn around customer requests in short order. Two weeks is not "short order."

I too share your disbelief. Are there any other viable clients for use. I currently am forced to run under XP on VMWare and use the Windows client.

This is unbelieveably bad.

Also hit by the "Aventail Bug" last weekend, when I was asked to do some remote work instead of coming into the office on a Saturday... Had just upgraded to 10.5, everything was smooth, and the Aventail installer didn't even hiccup or complain.

I guess my problem with this fiasco is more that the tech support for this is SO opaque. It's almost as if they don't believe their product is secure, so they can't share support forums, faqs, or even the news that the client doesn't work on their public site. I can understand requiring an email address or the like to login/download the client - but since the client itself is only useful with the hardware, why prevent people like me (non-VPN admins) from upgrading our software ourselves to get around this sort of thing.

Even if the website can't be updated, the app itself could run an update check, and allow direct download... I just don't get why they seem so averse to helping real customers get access to their (expensive) VPN box. Reading the rest of these stories did nothing to improve my opinion of them, either.

Still, they have the luxury of doing things on their own schedule - since our companies have already invested in their hardware, it IS much less likely that we will swap it out for Cisco or the like anytime soon.

oh dear oh dear.

Can I recommend folks to look at AppGate (www.appgate.com), AppGate specialise in true unified access control regardless of the device, the location and even the transmission. Wintel, Mac, solaris, symbian all these OS's are treated equal and access is granted based on role, device, location, device config. They also have an SSL client too and offer the full blend of access users demand and organisations need to offer, all from one appliance and one management console, simple.

They even have a usb client so access from dirty devices with whatever OS installed can access apps/services cleanly and securely.

cheers

Paul

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